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[166607] Artist: kaiodadragon | Title: Paradise/Every Teardrop Is A Waterfall (Tryout TWO) | Time: 7h 39m
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kaiodadragon Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 12:50 AM

smiley smiley smiley smiley my second tryout. i worked very hard on this picture! i almost wanted to give up and not finish it because im scared to get rejected, but i put so much effort in this. i hope you can all see that.

first tryout: http://sroekaki.net/oekaki/pictures/90078.jpg

sweet Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 1:42 AM
i think you need to establish yourself as an artist a little more. the coloring never really seems consistent and a little out of place. Try discovering which coloring techniques best fit your style by experimenting. Tbh it looks like you were playing with the tools, which is totally fine when trying to find out what works best for you but like I said you don't seem to be experienced in a coloring technique you like. If it would help, try looking at some tutorials on deviantart for coloring techniques and see if you can learn from those :). i would also recommend looking at references, for both anatomy and environment. They help more then you think. :P
i understand it can be difficult looking for a pose but i still check outt www.posemanaics.com , everything there is in porportion and it can really help with your anatomy. even if they don't have the exact pose you want they're sure to have something similar.
I think you should work on your shading. everything seems a little scribbly and rushed..which typically isn't a very good look :p Also it seems you just made the previous color with more black then before, i wouldn't recommend this. Try experimenting with other colors to give the your shades a more interesting look, it will also compliment your color scheme(which you may want to try doing to give your image more feel) ie, you could try shade blue w/ purple, or orange w/ red.

also, don't be afraid to get rejected! :p regardless of your results just try to learn a lot from it, what you can do to improve next time. Also, if you really are that scared to get rejected.. then maybe you aren't ready for this board? You should feel confident in your abilities trying out. i understand have a little butterfly for the results but still lol.

kaiodadragon Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 1:55 AM
i actually did use posemaniacs for this..

plus ever since this board raised its standards years ago, i got kicked out (Yes, I was a member before, a looonnng time ago) and ever since then i've tried out maybe six times trying to get back. so you can probably understand why i feel this way. but i want to be a member again, because i want to grow as an artist. i loved drawing here many years ago, back when I was like, 13, 14 (now 20) before it became an intermediate/advanced oekaki. I came here every day drawing then felt devastated when I was asked to leave after they raised the standards. ever since then I've been practicing and trying to get better so i can try out and try and get back into this oekaki that i loved so much.

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FP Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 3:40 AM
Not to sound insensitive, but judging on tryouts is based on your artistic ability and familiarity with the programs, and you saying all of this isn't going to help any. You seem like a very nice person, but you really don't have enough technique in either of those areas to qualify. As sweet said, experimenting is great, but a tryout should show off the best of your ability.

Don't get discouraged, though. It's important to work on your techniques and to keep practicing, even if you don't always succeed. You do definitely have artistic talent, it just needs tweaking. Sorry that wasn't very comprehensive, but sweet kind of already covered anything else I had to say.

kaiodadragon Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 4:44 AM
v_v i see. i give up. im never going to get re-accepted into here. thank you for the comments.

FP Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 5:12 AM
Listen, that's a terrible attitude to have, but if you really feel that way then you probably won't.

emi Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 1:09 PM
i think your first tryout was alot stronger than this one. something you could improve on is working on your pictures as a whole rather than focusing so intensely on the little details. if you get caught up in details then other things will lack like anatomy and compostition.

i really like how the grass looks here though...

lamb Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 1:18 PM
she's got no vagina

Gyarados Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 4:10 PM
^ i laughed sorry

anyway, please don't be like this. don't be frightened about getting rejected or making mistakes! you'd only end up stumbling even more if you worry too much.

sweet Saturday, October 22nd 2011, 4:31 PM
I reallllyy think you took the whole "leaving" way too personally especially if you haven't moved on for 7 years? I mean you should've repsected their decision and their just doing their job of keeping the stanndards of the adv. oekakis. & for all 6 tryouts uve done before was this your attitude? mega-pessamistic? take a look at yourself a little. this may sound mega cheesy but are people living their dream going "ah boohoo I give up mnahah" no they were successful becuz they worked hard &looked at their mistakes, and took the whole thing seriously. Judging your behavior i don't think you are determined to be accepted and also seeking attention. I really hope you listen to these critiques and use them to your advantage.

kremmel Tuesday, October 25th 2011, 12:00 AM
honestly I understand how you feel about this oekaki- I have been drawing here since I was 11, and I am now 19- and even though most of the older members are gone, this place is my art home. I really love this oekaki a lot. I don't believe you should give up if that is how you feel- I know I wouldn't.

In the critique field, my suggestion would be to work on your coloring. Don't combine 'hard' coloring techniques (pencil, tones) with 'soft' coloring techniques (watercolor, blur, airbrush.) You need to work on mastering these two separately before you even begin to THINK about combining them- it's really, REALLY hard to do properly. I also think you should look into color theory- really it can be something as small as looking at colourlovers.com for 5 minutes a day, or making a drawing a week with one of their palettes (don't forget to credit!) as well as shading. In the book, "The Artist's Way," it's discussed how the only way to become a better artist is to first accept being a not-so-good artist and work through to the other side. I think you have a lot of talent and I LOVE your ideas so much.. So please don't give up!!

[166559] Artist: kaiodadragon | Title: Everyday I'm shuf-ff-ff-lin' (Tryout UNO) | Time: 8h 45m
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kaiodadragon Wednesday, October 12th 2011, 10:59 PM

attempt at distant fog has failed. other than that i'm pretty happy with it.

my character Artemis fighing Lion-O from Thundercats for some reason

btw did i mention this is a tryout?

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kaiodadragon Thursday, October 13th 2011, 2:21 AM
derp o3o

nas1234567890 Thursday, October 13th 2011, 2:39 AM
it might take a while for people to comment/critique, so be patient
i can't yet since i'm still working on my second tryout

kaiodadragon Thursday, October 13th 2011, 3:04 AM
i know im just excited and nervous lol

emi Thursday, October 13th 2011, 9:20 PM
i really like the background and i can tell you worked very hard on the shading! i don't think the tones in the sky work with the picture though.

kaiodadragon Thursday, October 13th 2011, 9:33 PM
well i was going for a fog in the sky but i guess it didnt turn out real well guess i shoulda stayed with watercolor. this was actually my first attempt in complete watercolor. i usually do outlines so this was my first serious attempt at lineless too but im happy with the outcome. im very determined to get in!!!

FP Thursday, October 13th 2011, 11:41 PM
It's usually better to not mix watercolour with pixels, unless you know what you're doing (or you're experimenting, but a tryout isn't really the right time for that)

I agree that your effort really does show. For your next tryout, though, you should really do something you're more comfortable with and sure about, since tryouts are supposed to show off your best abilities, with the oekaki programs and with art in general. And then if you're accepted, you'll be able to do whatever you want.

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