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[165059] Artist: L.L.D | Title: Tryout 2 | Time: 55m 47s
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L.L.D Monday, May 2nd 2011, 2:09 AM
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I had to remake this. I accidently refreshed the page and lost the image because Im an idiot and pressed no.

So, am I turtley enough for the turtle club?
I mean... Yay or nay?

comfortcoat Monday, May 2nd 2011, 2:41 AM
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you have to wait for comments on your first try out for suggestions before doing your second...

comfortcoat Monday, May 2nd 2011, 2:56 AM
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I say third, with more emphasis on strong shading that actually contrasts--your first submission I could barely see the shading because it was so sparse and only a few shades darker, and this one has none at all. Try to think about where your light source is (maybe draw a sun to symbolize it) and then how it hits the object you're drawing. Shading isn't restricted to just creases in clothing. I also suggest using a different hue for shading to add more contrast (such as shading red with a dark brown, not just a darker red). The way you "shaded" the castle on this looks really careless, like you just used the dodge or burn tools (which are a terrible to use on shading/highlighting), and you added this strange glow to all the objects in this picture, though I'm not sure what it's for? The background in your first picture was really blurry and undefined, it didn't fit with how solid you had drawn the character at all...which you did do better in this picture, I will say.

I hope that doesn't sound too harsh.

issi_007 Monday, May 2nd 2011, 10:35 PM
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I won't vote. I will, however, crit.

First, anatomy. The legs in this one are very short, the arms in the last one were too short. The head seems a bit large. Try getting the proportions right; the arms should reach just above halfway down the thighs, the thigh has the longest bone in the body (be careful not to make the shin too long), and be sure not to make the upper arm taper too much into the elbow (the elbow on our right seems too pointy).

Secondly, shading. The airbrush tool set on a fixed size is useless, no matter how you choose to shade things with it. I recommend getting pen pressure (if you're using a pen tablet), or often changing the size. The watercolour tool, as well as the pen tool, serve as really good shading tools if you can't get pen pressure. You can get it here if you have a tablet (unless you have a mac PC):
http://jtablet.cellosoft.com/

Here's a picture:
http://www.photoeverywhere.co.uk/britain/conwy/conway_castle3210.JPG
Try to really define the shape of the towers by shading them, not just adding random horizontal lines.

Thirdly, perspective. Spend a few evenings for a few weeks reading a few good books on perspective. You can get most of them off online for free (downloading pdfs). "Perspective Made Easy" by Ernest R. Norling is a really good book that covers most, if not all, of the aspects of perspective. Because right now, that castle wall and those towers don't look believable.

Fourth, have your character interact with the background. That's why you're placing a background behind them in the first place. I want to see a background with details next time, a background where I can tell that your character belongs. I want to see your character doing something to the background. Even flying in it is fine, and smiling is too. But what is she smiling at, and why is she backing away? You could have added another person on the right hand side of the picture who is making her react like that, instead of leaving her to stare at some unknown thing to the right of the image. Another solution to this would be to make her eyes look towards us, and not at something else. Eye contact is appealing, but we usually want to know what her eyes see, and what she's looking at.

Your lineart is clean and I like that your images are more original than a regular dog in backyard picture (we used to get a lot of those before), but you can do so much more with your pictures, to really make them stand out.

Good luck, and bear all this in mind. You should also, as a general custom, wait a day or two before starting on another tryout, seeing as you didn't wait more than a few hours after you posted your first one. If you wait, it's possible that you get more comments/crits.

EDIT: OH AND ALSO, press print screen or prt sc or sys rq or whatever that key is called on your pc that allows you to take screencaps, OFTEN. That way, if you lose a picture, an admin can upload it for you.

(Edited on May 2, 2011, 11:02 pm)

L.L.D Tuesday, May 3rd 2011, 2:58 AM
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ah, well. Thanks for your time ^^

xSenshix Tuesday, May 3rd 2011, 7:47 PM
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Issi covered what I can think of.
I don't mean to sound cold, but I'm gonna say out for now. I'm sure once you apply these critiques for a bit you'll get in, no problem!

L.L.D Wednesday, May 4th 2011, 3:41 AM
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I rly don't mind. I know I still have to improve.
Thank you <:)


[165056] Artist: L.L.D | Title: Tryout 1 | Time: 1h 4m
Pic #88575

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L.L.D Monday, May 2nd 2011, 12:46 AM
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How is it that some pictures can only be seen after clicking on a link?
does it have to do with size?

yay, or nay?

(Edited on May 2, 2011, 12:54 am)

Owl Monday, May 2nd 2011, 3:09 AM
The character looks like a sticker just placed onto a background, there isn't any interaction. Should definitely practice some shading, as well. Good luck.

imbreum Monday, May 2nd 2011, 8:46 AM
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I concur with Owl. But I like the cloud he's on.


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